tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post1360889981427188361..comments2023-11-03T22:34:56.656+09:00Comments on I'm no Picasso: Culture vs. class.I'm no Picassohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06516337555349888808noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-61682168193630391322011-04-04T11:01:21.472+09:002011-04-04T11:01:21.472+09:00Maybe its a bell hooks kind of god?:)
Ah, the sme...Maybe its a bell hooks kind of god?:)<br /><br />Ah, the smell of postmodern feminist jokes in the morning . . . wakes you right up!Gomushin Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06480861544911964833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-57957354479578192412011-04-03T15:56:52.321+09:002011-04-03T15:56:52.321+09:00@ INP Yeah I'm Canadian and conservative (not...@ INP Yeah I'm Canadian and conservative (note the small c -- don't kill me Jason!) has a pretty negative connotation with people of my generation. Maybe traditional is better, but I have no problem mixing conservative thought in with my liberalism (small l again).Mr. Spockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07125299410825437145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-68090493188790368462011-04-03T09:11:53.060+09:002011-04-03T09:11:53.060+09:00KPP -- I have to ask.... how long has it been sinc...KPP -- I have to ask.... how long has it been since you've been in Korea? Because I haven't found any of what you've said to be even close to an across-the-board way of doing things. At all. Also, when you're in a bi-cultural relationship, it's a little odd to jump to the conclusion that not doing something in only one of the participant's manner of doing things is cultural bigotry. That would mean that there would be a hell of a lot of times when someone in the relationship is being a cultural bigot. <br /><br />Jason -- You might have had me with with your airy-fairy semantics with regards to the fact that a culture always considers its own supreme being to be the supreme being and therefore "God". But a. I think if you're so worried about not hurting anyone's feelings, you've got a problem on your hands with that argument in regards to the cultures and people who are atheistic and b. to turn around and say what you just said about goddesses in light of what you're trying to argue and why is just fucking weak. Since we are dealing with the oppression of semantics. It was a nice try though. <br /><br />Also, I really hope you are not who I think you are. If you are, and you've chosen this of all things to be "PC" about, in relation to the actual lives of human beings, then I think you have a lot more "thinking" to do.I'm no Picassohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06516337555349888808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-57626776163277619332011-04-03T04:34:05.281+09:002011-04-03T04:34:05.281+09:00jason you are being obnoxious. Your arguing about ...jason you are being obnoxious. Your arguing about spelling and completely missing the conversation we are having around class and different cultures! Get a life! You take yourself and your opinions way to seriously!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16139710541008398791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-49396106520178650902011-04-03T02:33:33.910+09:002011-04-03T02:33:33.910+09:00INP -- According to the link you gave me, God shou...INP -- According to the link you gave me, God should be capitalized when referring to "The Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe"<br /><br />Which is pretty much what I wrote and what you were referring to when you wrote of people who did not believe in a supreme Being. <br /><br />It does not require that God to be Christian or any other particular religious origin. It's a grammar rule regarding proper nouns. <br /><br />And the reason why goddess is not capitalized is because it is not a proper noun in common usage. It can be a proper noun when it is a name -- such as for adherents of Wicca.<br /><br />God is not gender based, thus goddess is misleading and redundant. Some people insist that their particular God is male, some others insist their God is female. That depends on the belief. But God itself is not gendered. <br /><br />I'm sorry if you think my post is "obnoxious" because I disagreed with something you said and stated my differing opinion.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02555285401052042554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-71644868185758045772011-04-03T02:01:16.278+09:002011-04-03T02:01:16.278+09:00Nice post.
Not letting a Korean guy pay is akin t...Nice post.<br /><br />Not letting a Korean guy pay is akin to chopping his nuts off. It's a cultural faux pas. I see why Americans might be suspicious of it - suspecting that there is some ulterior motive (e.g. trying to get in their pants). THERE IS NO ULTERIOR MOTIVE (or, not necessarily anyway). <br /><br />So, just to state some Korean payment etiquette:<br /><br />1) If you are with a Korean man, and you are a woman, you should assume that he will pay, and you should let him do so (when I was dating in Seoul, the women wouldn't even bother to bring their purses). You might make a half-hearted offer to pay, but if he takes you up on it, he is: A) a cheap, no-good SOB; B) taking advantage of a cultural disconnect; c) definitely, definitely not worth a second date.<br /><br />2) If you are with a group of Koreans, the oldest or the most senior person should pay. Again, you might make a half-hearted offer to pay, but DO NOT INSIST. Most of all, do not offer to pay your share - which looks selfish and stupid. Again, if a senior person does not pay, that says something about him or her.<br /><br />3) If you are with a Korean or a group of Koreans who is/are younger than you - then YOU are the motherfucking SENIOR person. So YOU PAY! How many Americans have I seen make asses of themselves by weasling out and offering cultural ignorance as justification. Don't be a dick. <br /><br />If you think this is too complicated, a Korean person would tell you that it's more respectful and it all evens out at the end anyway.<br /><br />To sum up: It's a mark of cultural bigotry not to let the Korean guy pay on a date. And he's not looking for anything in return.Korean Punk Professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05554943873764484693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-56039973623089718472011-04-03T00:49:21.178+09:002011-04-03T00:49:21.178+09:00Mr. Spock -- Because of everything the word "...Mr. Spock -- Because of everything the word "conservative" has come to mean in American culture, I cringe to even think it. But I guess it's true. "Traditional", maybe? I don't know. Whatever it is, it's there. And I don't think in a bad way. And that's alright. Korea's helped me to come around to that.I'm no Picassohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06516337555349888808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-69171026698757863462011-04-03T00:45:31.628+09:002011-04-03T00:45:31.628+09:00Jason -- What word would you have preferred for me...Jason -- What word would you have preferred for me to use, since I was not, in fact, referring to the Christian God, who most English speaking people associate with the term "God"? Also, maybe you should fill me in on goddesses as well.<br /><br />http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/god<br /><br />I mean, I know it's just a dictionary, but it doesn't usually steer me wrong.<br /><br />By the way, stating outright that you know you're doing something obnoxious doesn't really change the fact that you're doing something obnoxious.I'm no Picassohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06516337555349888808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-40722216711532692132011-04-02T23:34:47.494+09:002011-04-02T23:34:47.494+09:00Amendment: By African "gods" I was refer...Amendment: By African "gods" I was referring generally to spirit and ancestor worship (hence, do not possess God-like attributes) within/instead of pantheistic or in supplement to monotheistic faith systems (Example: Voodoo).Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02555285401052042554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-82270537036194507542011-04-02T23:25:24.417+09:002011-04-02T23:25:24.417+09:00God when used in an under-case, grammatically, is ...God when used in an under-case, grammatically, is only used as a proper noun in order to insult theists, in much the same way that a name is only used intentionally in under-case, again grammatically, in order to insult someone. <br /><br />Grammatically, God is used in the under-case (not a proper noun) when referring to a pantheon or to imply total mastery. Examples, "Zeus is God among many gods," and "Michelangelo was a god of painting." <br /><br />God is not grammatically at all similar to mother (which is not a proper noun). God is defined as a supreme being and it is used as a name in a grammatically similar fashion to either the proper name or nick-name of an individual. <br /><br />God is used in the under-case erroneously rather frequently. The ethnocentric use of Buddha as a "god" is an example of Western arrogance in literature. The same is true of the various African "gods" -- deities, yes, but nothing resembling God. If a supernatural being has control over reality then it is God in that cultural context even if it is not exclusive in its power. <br /><br />God is also spelt in the under-case by bigots who wish to use language to insult religious people. Choosing not to upper-case a proper noun is a popular but grammatically incorrect slight. <br /><br />Allah and Ywh are translations of the proper noun God, not different names. To trinitarians Jesus is God; in any religion or language Jesus is not a "god," as an example <br /><br />I'm just busting your balls, INP. I don't really have that thin of skin. That, and I honestly don't believe that you were aware of that particular case of institutionalized religious intolerance. <br /><br />Bashing people for what they believe is, after all, fashionable and acceptable, as long as you use a blanket-concept and don't single anyone out. As a broad category of human identity, theism is rather similar to gender in that way. But I reckon you're the last person I need to tell that. <br /><br />Again, just giving you a hard time in response to an entry about people getting/having a hard time as a result of cultural misunderstanding. <br /><br />I did it all for the nerd lawls. ;)Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02555285401052042554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-60639231632389235492011-04-02T08:56:22.658+09:002011-04-02T08:56:22.658+09:00I grew up very privileged and middle class and sur...I grew up very privileged and middle class and surrounded by the "liberal" types you mentioned, especially when I got to high school. I never quite understood why I was different from them, but I was raised by parents who grew up working class themselves and they instilled in me a lot of the values you mentioned--which often made me feel different from the people I was around. In college, where everybody goes on a super liberal kick, parroting their professors in absence of a fully formed worldview I realized that I would have to craft my own. Still working on that. But when I told a friend of mine that "Korea suits my personality", he said "Ah, some latent conservatism in there?" He is from the south too and I think he understood something I didn't yet. Your blog entry crystallized what I have been trying to make sense of in my gut. Especially why so many people I know DON'T jive with Korea in spite of being generally positive, outgoing people. Everybody's culture shock is different and your look at culture vs. class was some very useful insight.Mr. Spockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07125299410825437145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-83471625753619742752011-04-02T07:25:50.109+09:002011-04-02T07:25:50.109+09:00Jason -- That would be grammatically incorrect. I ...Jason -- That would be grammatically incorrect. I did not use it as a proper noun. Kind of like how you don't capitalize "mother" when you are referring to a mother, and not using it as a name. My friends did not believe in any god, including God of the Bible, or Allah or Buddha. <br /><br />And besides that, it doesn't kill you that I didn't. And it doesn't bother me that you did. Just aayin'. ;-)I'm no Picassohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06516337555349888808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-9795779937638201012011-04-02T07:14:30.207+09:002011-04-02T07:14:30.207+09:00Well said. As a working-class Northern Baptist, I ...Well said. As a working-class Northern Baptist, I sympathize completely. <br /><br />Although it wouldn't kill you to capitalize God... Just sayin'. <br /><br />Thanks for writing this down. It definitely needs to be said.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02555285401052042554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-16457067798164330842011-04-01T13:44:14.839+09:002011-04-01T13:44:14.839+09:00So, so, so true.So, so, so true.superA1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10697524178358206053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21444271.post-18036767408146674592011-04-01T11:55:57.371+09:002011-04-01T11:55:57.371+09:00right on.right on.Usbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10136591249620872930noreply@blogger.com